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My photos of Nuria

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davidx Premium account Joined: Dec 04 Points: 34719 Posts: 440 Posted: 2005-08-10 20:40:00    Obviously grading can't be 'wrong' since judgements of photos are subjective but I must say I'm surprised that my photo http://www.globosapiens.net/davidx/pictures-ribes-before-mist-23879.html is currently a grade higher than http://www.globosapiens.net/davidx/pictures-nuria---chairlift-in-mist-23880.html. I only uploaded the former as a contrast to the latter and to show how rapidly conditions changed, whereas I thought the chairlift in mist was far more interesting. I should really welcome some frank opinions here. That's how we all improve. Cheers, David [ This Message was edited by: davidx on 2005-08-10 20:41 ] --- Grieve not for that which you cannot do but rejoice in that which you can. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact davidx   eirekay Premium account Joined: Aug 03 Points: 19539 Posts: 214 Posted: 2005-08-20 01:34:00    David, You are right - rating is subjective. I never know whether to upload for subject matter or for artistic quality. I admit to liking the "Before the Mist" photo better for the play of light and shadow, as well as the coloring. I also have been surprised by what people have responded to in my photos, and what has been unappealing. Not sure what the right answer is, but I will say that I always find you pics very well composed! Eire --- Life is not measured by the breaths you take but by the moments that take your breath away. Profile Pic: Tikal, Guatemala Reply    Reply with quote    Contact eirekay   davidx Premium account Joined: Dec 04 Points: 34719 Posts: 440 Posted: 2005-08-20 12:15:00    Thanks for this Eire. I was getting to think that asking for observations on my own photos was a bit like breaking wind in church! I find it a pity that it doesn't happen more. I should be quite willing myself to write about people's photos - but only if they ask. David --- Grieve not for that which you cannot do but rejoice in that which you can. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact davidx   rangutan Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 34752 Posts: 1044 Posted: 2005-08-20 16:44:00    Hi David I too like the second picture better: www.globosapiens.net/davidx/pictures-ribes-before-mist-23880.html (photo) technicaly ** subject **** artisticaly *** travel/nature worth**** + more subject too it + mist always gives a soft touch + partial silouette of mountain nice - grey (less blue and green) - chairlifts look broken and bumper-to-bumper - what is a "cag"??? my TOTAL ***/**** (GLOBO 3.0 by 6 votes) I like the pre-view too, but less, others more. It is though a very different picture and cannot really be compared to that above: www.globosapiens.net/davidx/pictures-ribes-before-mist-23879.html (photo) technically *** subject ** artistic*** travel/nature *** + bit more blue and green in it (GLOBOs love that) + fresh and natural air mountain scenery - for me somewhat dull, could be from many mountains GLOBOs like this "natural" shot more than next mechanical or people stuff! my TOTAL **/*** (GLOBO total 3,2 by 5 votes) I wish more members would rate things, after 10-20 ratings a true reflection of quality should be reached... Regards Rudi --- Rudolf "Rangutan" Graspointner Reply    Reply with quote    Contact rangutan   davidx Premium account Joined: Dec 04 Points: 34719 Posts: 440 Posted: 2005-08-20 18:40:00    Thanks, Rudi, for this detailed crit. I agree entirly with your last point. I spend quite a bit of time myself rating photos and I often find after rating that I am giving one point more or less than the average [I try not to see this until after so that I am giving my own grading without being influenced by it. Often a photo can be thought between two grades and that's when a lot of gradings can help get the 'right' result. David --- Grieve not for that which you cannot do but rejoice in that which you can. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact davidx   rangutan Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 34752 Posts: 1044 Posted: 2005-08-21 06:03:00    ... I must add that my usual rating process is not so complicated, dont want members to be frighted off, its better to rate "from-the-gut" than not at all. I usually rate a pic by "first site" and within about 3-5 seconds. Only a specially interesting picture and also when deciding between **** and ***** stars might I look at it for 20 seconds and sometimes much longer! Many other factors also influence rating. While the chair-lift might be a better picture, one member might have a fear of them or had a bad experience, unconciously then rating it down or lower than the pure mountain shot? Also, just the fact that one pic was rated more than the other (5 vs 6 times) could effect the average since some rate higher/lower according to destination or even member!!! --- Rudolf "Rangutan" Graspointner Reply    Reply with quote    Contact rangutan