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davidx Premium account Joined: Dec 04 Points: 34719 Posts: 440 Posted: 2007-05-23 13:41:00    I thought I was responding to a request, when I did a note of the various things I'd done about the island. I only added what I think is a rather amusing ditty to fill it out for those who have already read everything I'd done. I didn't put on photos on the grounds that they are al on Globo and I don't feel right getting duplicate points for them here. However I now find that something quite different was expected - a summary of my trip and my best photos. As I put in the report I should really appreciate more opinions. I'm quite happy to delete the report if you all think I should. Please be candid; my skin is thick. Cheers David --- Grieve not for that which you cannot do but rejoice in that which you can. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact davidx   rangutan Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 34752 Posts: 1044 Posted: 2007-05-23 17:03:00    Thanks David so much for telling us about Madeira, such few members have been there. It was a good move to suggest "Madeira" as a new place, and members should follow your moves similarly for other small islands where the island name is more commonly used than the little villages it may hide. I think the idea of such a summary report is great, should include the best photos from your gallery or even the other sub-reports. Don't worry too much about the point system, remember that your articles at GLOBO attract the most external visitors and you don't (should) get points for that! Such a "mother" report should be a very short and brief sumary of the island, perhaps some general info and history added and make the reader aware that there are other reports on specific places about the island. The referance to other reports can also just be named rather than incerting long URLs. I will try (test)if HTML coding works for links otherwise suggest it. I would rate your report as it is now as about 2.8 (lower three) which is the medium range. A few pictures (even double because most visitors will read the "mother" report first) and a bit of very brief general history, geography and details to getting there and general information would take it well into the "4" bracket (or above?).... RR [ This Message was edited by: rangutan on 2007-05-23 17:15 ] --- Rudolf "Rangutan" Graspointner Reply    Reply with quote    Contact rangutan   andreas Joined: May 02 Points: 8309 Posts: 808 Posted: 2007-05-24 12:15:00    Hi David, just a quick opinion of mine. I believe links inside such a report are not usefull. Especially if they are plain text. Speaking about implementing html links into the text is a very bad idea. First I believe that I have this deactivated, second the idea of GLOBO is to seperate content from functionality. They are on two different layers. So for example if a relounch of GLOBO will take place (and you can be sure there will be one in the future!), Your whole report may become unreadable as you implemented html code, another thing is, that the ,link structure on GLOBO might change so the link is obsolet anyway. I see what you are looking for and that GLOBO does not provice the appropriate tools for it. This is just an indication for me that there is a need or desire by the members to have certain functionality available that enables them to do things like you do have in mind with this report. As for now I would personally recommend to replace most of the links and (I have done a x on this an a y on that) with a short summery of the best content you have written on those places with the best pictures. That is 1st. way better readable and second user do want to read without clicking to much and see pictures as well. Just my 2 cents. Best regards, andy Reply    Reply with quote    Contact andreas   davidx Premium account Joined: Dec 04 Points: 34719 Posts: 440 Posted: 2007-05-26 10:45:00    Thanks, both of you. When I turned on this morning, I thought I was about to do a substantial edit - but found Ravi's comment on the report. At hte expense of appearing massively egocentric - which I hope I'm not - I should appreciate some more views. I seriously wonder whether there isn't a need for some sort of summary documents on major areas. If so, I don't think I've got it right here. I appreciate the point about the links made by you both and I shall confine my editing at the moment to getting them out and some pics in. I shall not communicate on this again but I shall do some more editing in a few days, whether or not there are fresh comments by others. --- Grieve not for that which you cannot do but rejoice in that which you can. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact davidx   eirekay Premium account Joined: Aug 03 Points: 19539 Posts: 214 Posted: 2007-05-27 02:04:00    David, I found your report very helpful! I like the summary format. Keri did something similar in a report on Spain and my Rajasthan Road Trip was intended to cover those places we went that were spectacular but not worth a full report. I think this is an issue we all face at times. I am getting ready to travel through a string of Mayan ruins. I can envision doing something along the lines of your Madiera report for that trip, since we are only rarely in any location for more than 1 day. For what it is worth, I see a lot of value in what you pulled together! Eire --- Life is not measured by the breaths you take but by the moments that take your breath away. Profile Pic: Tikal, Guatemala Reply    Reply with quote    Contact eirekay   marianne Premium account Joined: Sep 03 Points: 20248 Posts: 349 Posted: 2007-05-27 09:52:00    Eire made a good point. Often it is impossible to write a full report because the stay in a particular place was too short, but long enough to write one or two report sections about it. This is especially the case when visiting several places during one trip. Maybe we could also have country reports and/or trip reports. At the moment we are allowed to write only one report about a city/town. I wish we could write more, especially for large cities. (I wrote one about Amsterdam, but would like to write another one, highlighting different things) --- “I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel’s sake. The great affair is to move.” Robert Louis Stevenson Reply    Reply with quote    Contact marianne   davidx Premium account Joined: Dec 04 Points: 34719 Posts: 440 Posted: 2007-05-29 18:06:00    I have now completed what I hope is a final revision of this report. --- Grieve not for that which you cannot do but rejoice in that which you can. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact davidx   rangutan Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 34752 Posts: 1044 Posted: 2007-05-30 14:03:00    David, your last revision is perfectly fine a a summary to all your other uploades. Thanks for experimenting :-) I disagree with Marianne and Eire that one should write a report on a place one passes through or visits for a few hours (perhaps I will try it for my Paraguay experience)or writing GLOBOreports on whole countries, when one just visits a part of it! Remember though that if one has not enough info, one can also upload pictures with comments, do a slideshow, write destination reports or use ones travel log. I know I write very short reports but it is always possible to write atleast a bit on most of the titles. If there is no image for that heading, there is then also no wide spaces left open. Even if the report is on a desert island or remote mountain, one is active also after sunset ("nightlife"), one must eat ("restaurants") and one must sleep somewhere the previos and next night (accomodation")...! I think we should futher improve the headings, options and expand the options list of headings be to prompt more writing. Only the first three headings (fields) should be compulsory and perhaps the main field "General Description" should then allow 5000 in stead of only 2000 characters? See discussion also at: http://www.globosapiens.de/topic-headers-for-reports_29_1517_0000.html RR [ This Message was edited by: rangutan on 2007-05-31 12:15 ] --- Rudolf "Rangutan" Graspointner Reply    Reply with quote    Contact rangutan   marianne Premium account Joined: Sep 03 Points: 20248 Posts: 349 Posted: 2007-05-30 16:25:00    Rudi and all, [QUOTE RUDI] Even if the report is on a desert island or remote mountain, one is active also after sunset ("nightlife"), one must eat ("restaurants") and one must sleep somewhere the previos and next night (accomodation")...![END QUOTE] It is definitely not always possible to add the above. I wrote about Mount Agung, but cannot possibly add anything about nightlife because people go home when the sun sets, or accommodation, there is no losmen, hotel or guesthouse near this mountain. [QUOTE RUDI] Only the first three headings (fields) should be compulsory and perhaps the main field "General Description" should then allow 5000 instead of only 2000 characters? [END QUOTE] This is a good solution, but I think 5000 words is too much. 2000 words are sufficient to give practical information. If more characters are allowed more unimportant things will be written. What we need in the general description is useful, practical information / advice. Slide shows are no option because non-paying members are only allowed two slideshows in total. Uploading pictures with comments is an alternative, but not enough characters are allowed so that only a very superficial comment can be given. When they have been rated they no longer form a connecting story and are scattered over the place. Besides there are not linked to the city described and therefore very difficult to find. It is not a pleasure to look at many photos because it involves too much clicking backwards and forewards. The slideshows would be more interesting to view if there was a databank so that destinations and titles of the shows can be found easily. Another option might be that we can choose to write a report with the existing headings, (and stick to them), or write a report without these pre-fixed headings and write our own headings. Marianne --- “I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel’s sake. The great affair is to move.” Robert Louis Stevenson Reply    Reply with quote    Contact marianne   rangutan Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 34752 Posts: 1044 Posted: 2007-05-31 12:09:00    ... Marianne, I mean for "General Description" allow 5000 (or even 8000) characters instead of the current 2000 if the other headings are not used (become optional). The author can then create own headings inside that one field (mask). That is very easy for Staff to adjust, rather than re-program the whole GLOBO report section to incorporate a second option. Also, change and improvements are great but changing too much is not fair on those that have already written reports in the current style. Nevertheless the whole report should never be longer than 8000 characters. One can write many reports on one city if one suggests a notible district, suburb, sattelite town, park, mountain, beach, lake or island as a new place if they are not yet in the databank. For Munich I have written two reports; "Munich" and "Munchen" but could also on Flaucher, Dachau, Grunwald, Olympiaberg, Fürstenfeldbrück, Ottobrunn, Freissing... all are in the GLOBOdatabank and part of greater Munich we call "München Land" I like very much what David has done for Madiera; one could also write many reports on a metropolitan area too and use a central report as summary and refere to the other reports as extensions..... RR --- Rudolf "Rangutan" Graspointner Reply    Reply with quote    Contact rangutan   Page: 1 2