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Posted: 2003-11-14 09:21:00
This is another coincidence I saw this Knee Defenders URL as well. Are you perhaps a member of a Yahoo Travel Group?
I do get annoyed sometimes by the cramped space, but not because people recline, but because aircraft have too little legroom. Once there was some one sitting behind me who didn't want me to recline my seat "because he was '1 metre 90' and did not fit. The flight attendent told him off in a very polite way.
Should tall people just grin and bear in their economy seat or should they pay the extra and fly business class and have extra legroom? ---
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Posted: 2003-11-14 12:55:00
For me, long distance flights are always very uncomfortable - I am 1 meter 96 tall. So it is really a problem for me if someone leans back his seat: I am only able to cross my legs and have no chance to move them just one centimetre. To get up, I have to crick my legs and to leave by climbing over the seat.
If possible, I try to get a seat at the emergency exit, but most of the time they are already reserved-there are sitting the people under 1 meter75 :-) ...
Unfortunately, I am not able to pay the extra for business class. But in the meantime I earned enough miles for an upgrade: The next flight 'I'll walk on air'! <p>[ This Message was edited by: christianj. on 2003-11-14 12:56 ] [ This Message was edited by: christianj. on 2003-11-14 12:58 ] ---
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Posted: 2003-11-14 13:05:00
That's an interesting point you make: 1 meter 96 is quite tall.
I have two questions for you and anyone else who is reading this.
1. Does it annoy you when the person in front of you reclines his/her seat? It probably does annoy you, but do you make a point of it and prevent them from reclining?
2. Do you think that you are entitled to a seat near the emergengy exit because you are that tall? And should shorter people who are sitting there give up their place and give it to taller people?
I'm 1 metre 60 and when I have been given a seat near the emergency exit I love it. And I'm not quite willing to give up this place.
I'd love to hear your opinion. ---
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Posted: 2003-11-14 13:50:00
Hi Marianne,
certainly I am not happy if someone reclines the seat. If the person is doing it 'just for fun' I try to prevent her/him. If the person wants to sleep, I accept it (with a smile).
I also think that tall people are not automatically entitled to a seat near the emergency exit. But it would be nice if the check-in crew would prefer tall people. I can understand that shorter people also like this place; otherwise a little bit more understanding and helpfulness in this case should be indicated. And don't forget: It is not healthful to sit like 'a saussage in a tin'. ---
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Posted: 2003-11-14 14:21:00
Christian,
You are a very considerate traveller. Do you think airlines should be forced to make the legroom larger? The smaller the legroom the more people they can squash in. But airfares stay the same and even increase. So can't they provide the traveller with more comfort?
The thing that amazes me is that generally speaking Asian companies have more legroom than European whereas it is common knowledge that Asians are shorter than Europeans.
If you want to know more about the seat pitch go to http://seatguru.com
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Posted: 2003-11-18 17:52:00
Hi Marianne,
it took a while, but here is my reply: I think the time has come, that the airlines have to make arrangments for the fact, that people are getting taller and taller. I hope they realise, that this is a chance to commit (new) customers.
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Posted: 2003-11-18 18:21:00
It's not just an issue of comfort, for some it can be a matter of life or death. Deep Leg Thrombosis is a life-threatening condition in which clots form in the leg and can travel to the lungs or heart. It can be triggered by these cramped conditions where movement impaired for long periods of time. So, remember, no matter how annoying it is to your row-mates, be sure on long flights to get up, move around, and keep that circulation going! ---
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Posted: 2003-12-12 17:58:00
I used to never recline my seat (and even once quarelled with my travel mate because I also disallowed him to do so!) out of courtesy for the passenger behind, regardless of his height. However, I must admit that recently I do recline it if/when I feel like it, because far too many people just unapologetically drop their seat into my nose once they are allowed to (like when we reach cruising altitude), even though I might still be in the middle of my meal or typing away on my notebook.
If one travels on American Airlines often and achieves elite status, one gets to reserve the exit row seats - the best in the house. This has helped me avoid the seat recline issue for numerous flights. Of course, once I get those seats, I never recline. It's a matter of being "nice" to the guy behind since I already have all the space in the world that I need, and there's nobody in front to fall back on me. As an aside, it's sometimes awkward sitting at the exit row, however, because the FA will sit facing you during takeoff and landing. Time to come up with conversation topics. But usually I just whip up my camera and take pictures through the window! ---
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Posted: 2003-12-12 21:58:00
OK, now they've gone too far!
"Tray-table advertising is the latest thing. TTA is beginning with America West Airlines and will almost certainly be coming to a flight near you. Why? Because Madison Avenue apparently has yet to exploit and abuse every possible inch of space in the public sphere."
"...after the flight attendant ambles by with drinks and you flip down the tray table to receive your requisite 2.7 ounces of refreshing canned heavily sugared beverage in a plastic nonrecycled cup, you will see, right there on the tray, a large unavoidable advertisement for, say, Bank of America. Or Amex. Or Mercedes. Staring right back at you. For the entire flight. Joy."
Here's the rest of the article:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2003/12/12/notes121203.DTL
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