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marianne Premium account Joined: Sep 03 Points: 20248 Posts: 349 Posted: 2006-04-04 14:09:00    We would like to hear your opinion about the Travel photo guidelines and photo rating suggestions below. We have tried to keep the guidelines short and simple. TRAVEL PHOTO GUIDELINES suggestions: - A travel photo tells its own story. It captures the atmosphere of the place and urges others to visit the place. - All photos are taken by the member him/herself and of good quality - Each photo has a relevant title. Private and personal pictures of family, friend, pets and homes should not be uploaded to the main gallery but incorporated in the member's travel log PHOTO RATING suggestion: * uninteresting, not travel related, personal pictures ** mediocre, very general, predictable, could have been taken anywhere in the world *** interesting, in focus, good composition **** I wish I had taken it ***** I could stare at this all day Let us know your opinion so that the guidelines can be adapted accordingly. Martin and Marianne --- “I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel’s sake. The great affair is to move.” Robert Louis Stevenson Reply    Reply with quote    Contact marianne   christianj. Premium account Joined: Oct 02 Points: 6482 Posts: 69 Posted: 2006-04-04 19:07:00    Hi Marianne, hi Martin, I think it's carefully (or may I say 'chary') worded and even for my taste not too strict. Christian --- Just SMILE - and the world smiles with you!! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact christianj.   davidx Premium account Joined: Dec 04 Points: 34719 Posts: 440 Posted: 2006-04-04 19:43:00    First, thanks for raising this subject yet again. I say that in the hope and belief that this discussion will settle the question for quite some time. However, much as I like the idea of short guidelines, I think some things do need adding - yes, I do mean adding because i find the general message good in so far as the stars are concerned. I think the point made by French Frog in her recent raising of the question was important, that other factors need consideration as well as technical quality. the following is a quote from Martin in that discussion that I thought took various people near to agreement. 'A 5 star picture needs to be nearly perfect in every way. For all other votes between 2 and 4 I really am interested in the meaning of the picture. But when a picture really is not discernible because it's quality is so low I tend to distract one or two stars due to this fact.' I think the general idea of Martin's message, if not the actual words, should be included. I am also not entirely happy about a blunt 'The picture should tell the story.' I think there are many times that the comments help to give the atmosphere or the humour of the situation. That's enough for a start but if the discussion goes on like the last one, I may be back. Cheers David --- Grieve not for that which you cannot do but rejoice in that which you can. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact davidx   eirekay Premium account Joined: Aug 03 Points: 19539 Posts: 214 Posted: 2006-04-04 21:31:00    I think this does the job nicely. The only concern I have is the message about not including picture of family or friends. There are times that a person adds perspective or give a better idea of size and actually enhances the travel value of a photo. Is there a way to word smith around this? Otherwise, nicely done! Eire --- Life is not measured by the breaths you take but by the moments that take your breath away. Profile Pic: Tikal, Guatemala Reply    Reply with quote    Contact eirekay   mortimer Premium account Joined: Jun 04 Points: 15075 Posts: 528 Posted: 2006-04-04 21:49:00    David: You said: " I am also not entirely happy about a blunt 'The picture should tell the story.' I think there are many times that the comments help to give the atmosphere or the humour of the situation. " The fact that a picture tells a story is most of the times not visible at a glance. Often a lot of background information is needed to fully appreciate or learn the story behind the picture. You are absolutely right by stressing that text can give the necessary information for further viewing pleasure. This hasn't necessarily only to be the text provided by uploading, but can also be added and explained later on with comments. Again there are a lot of cultural, educational and experience wise differences among our members. For some the message of a picture is straightforward which others only will see with a lot of explanation and transfer of background knowledge. By saying "A travel photo tells its own story" we keep the field broad and let everybody decide for themselves what story the particular picture he or she uploads tells. Eire, We propose: "Private and personal pictures of family..." If people are added for perspective and size comparision, they are "allowed". It's clearly stated: private and personal Do you think this is not phrased well enough and sounds too restrictive? Anyway, I prefer not having a picture than a picture of me in front of (often, me is only disturbing the view). Thanks all for contributing! Martin [ This Message was edited by: mortimer on 2006-04-04 21:56 ] --- Today is the first day of the rest of your life, enjoy it! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact mortimer   joe_schmidt Premium account Joined: Dec 02 Points: 2664 Posts: 32 Posted: 2006-04-04 22:12:00    Marianne, I can agree with this rules. They are a good guideline and not too strict. The explanations for the rating stars are OK. No one should mix this site up with a photographer's one. One point: Up to now I uploaded pcitures which are somehow of the sort private travel and I send them as postcards to people who may not want to register just for looking at some of them. can travel log pictures be sent to somewhere? (I never tried because I never used the travel log.) ciao, Joe --- ciao, Joe Reply    Reply with quote    Contact joe_schmidt   marianne Premium account Joined: Sep 03 Points: 20248 Posts: 349 Posted: 2006-04-05 09:13:00    Joe, As far as i am aware travel log photos cannot be sent as postcards. It is a good point and we could ask Andy if he can add this. Marianne --- “I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel’s sake. The great affair is to move.” Robert Louis Stevenson Reply    Reply with quote    Contact marianne   terje Premium account Joined: Feb 06 Points: 8228 Posts: 8 Posted: 2006-04-05 09:20:00    Good morning! The whole idea of rating is based upon the subjective reaction of the viewer, The guidelines should therefor only include the basic photographic rules. It must be possible for a amateur photographer with a small camera to get 5* if his/her motive and composition is good. There must also be room for both landscapes and details. Originality should be rewarded. We must not end up i a situation where the judgement of reports/photos are machinelike. F.ex i noticed in the recent report from Lund, the originality of the report, written by a goth, didnt seem sufficiently rewarded to me. *'s were OK, but text not. Just a few words in the morning Terje --- TerryB Reply    Reply with quote    Contact terje   frenchfrog Premium account Joined: Dec 05 Points: 26139 Posts: 60 Posted: 2006-04-05 13:22:00    Hi Marianne, and all Globies I am totally agree with the new propositions and guidelines: It is fair, PHOTO RATING suggestion: * uninteresting, not travel related, personal pictures ** mediocre, very general, predictable, could have been taken anywhere in the world *** interesting, in focus, good composition **** I wish I had taken it ***** I could stare at this all day Everyone taste is differrent but with the new guidlines, it will be more standardised. Well done and thank you all for your time as well Isabelle --- "It is far more better to have seen it once than to have heard about it a thousand time." Mongolian proverb Reply    Reply with quote    Contact frenchfrog   rangutan Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 34752 Posts: 1044 Posted: 2006-04-05 18:30:00    My friends, thoughts, suggestions, irritations are plastered all over GLOBO but here a summary to picture rating: The GLOBO Picture Gallery? Low quality, too personal, vague, plant, animal, pet, family pictures should be uploaded to one's "travel log" (=travelogue/weblog/blog) or a very clever report. All other images/pictures worthy of the gallery should be seriously rated considering - FIRST: photo quality - travel location (specially remote places welcome) - travel placement must be exact in database - travel rareness/situation/feeling - should be genuine & a members own property, produced or directed by him/herself Rating is a very flexible and personal thing, may differ so much between members but also within a member acording to current feelings, moods and health: - no defined rules, just guided rating - every member is different to the next - every member has different moods often - rating is a single personal opinion and every opinion must be accepted with respect too. Generaly we should set our quality on the images printed in major travel magazines and journals like "National Geographic", "GEO" and the general press. We are not professionals like Terge says and we do not want concrete rules like Christian mentions. We want very basic guidelines like: ***** good for the website homepage, cover or any special publications ****good for printing in magazines and newspapers too *** good information for internet and the community ** good as general travel scenes or advice only * no help for general travelers at all "Rangutan" Rudi [ This Message was edited by: rangutan on 2006-04-05 18:58 ] --- Rudolf "Rangutan" Graspointner Reply    Reply with quote    Contact rangutan   Page: 1 2