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How can we get the members to be more active

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mortimer Premium account Joined: Jun 04 Points: 15075 Posts: 528 Posted: 2004-10-04 08:20:00    Boris / Ravi Well the time limit you (boris) are giving for a non active member seems to me a little bit short. Perhaps somebody has checked out the site before going on a longer trip and didn't bother to post a thing while he is out. Once he got back he might post something in return for all the good stuff he found here before he left... There are people around that do travel for a year or even more... Removing members is only advisable for members that didn't post a thing. There always is the possibilty of a member that did post a lot of stuff that he can't post anymore or is not willing to post more, there are several reasons possible that you can find out yourself... Should his account be deleted after not being active over three years. He might have the picture with the highest rating ever! We sure wouldn't want to miss that informtion. Martin --- Today is the first day of the rest of your life, enjoy it! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact mortimer   ravinderkumarsi Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 14003 Posts: 451 Posted: 2004-10-04 09:52:00    Dear Mrtin, I agree with you that some people might have gone for a long travel or leave or not accessing the net ,so they should not be removed like that , what i can suggest that .. 1.before removing the member there should a warning given to them on the email they gave while registering. 2.only those members should be removed who didnt contribute any thing to the community. and 3.those who havent logged more than one(i.e. they only have created a loging) and never logged again. I requested Andreas to also provide a display to a person profile as how many times he/she logged to the site so that one can judge whether that person is regular or not ..on the same guide lines of the data ..total view... which we are having on every profile. thatks ravi --- at bangalore /back 2 globo after a long Reply    Reply with quote    Contact ravinderkumarsi   mortimer Premium account Joined: Jun 04 Points: 15075 Posts: 528 Posted: 2004-10-04 11:29:00    Hi Ravi The how many times logged in part is not very good for me. Im not keen that everybody knows how long I stay on this site and how many times I log in. Im working long hours but not very intense, therefore I do have time to log in a lot of times for a quick check whats going on. Just to keep me infromed. What would you do with the information that somebody logged in 20 times a day. This is something that should be kept private. There always is the possibility of people sitting in their office and instead of working are spending a lot of time here, it might happen that it would be controlled by their bosses... Well there sure are other possibilities for their bosses but still, I think we are giving enough information about our private stuff so far. What about the american homeland office spiing on you finding out you have been online at the same time as a searched terrorist... (I know it's a bit far fetched but who knows.) We don't know each other personally and can't be sure what everyone of us pursues the whole day long. For me the last log in date is enough. Martin --- Today is the first day of the rest of your life, enjoy it! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact mortimer   rangutan Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 34752 Posts: 1044 Posted: 2004-10-04 16:28:00    Thinking of it, I have seen chat rooms were a trivia quiz runs while members are chatting. This is started by a command like "> run trivia" (im sure Andreas could find something like that for us). This would get the chatroom going, as well as incorporating a trivia function which might draw members too. Questions (a mixture of easy and hard) could easily be gathered from our reports and notes to the pictures or points for members who submitt say 20 questions with web/book referances... --- Rudolf "Rangutan" Graspointner Reply    Reply with quote    Contact rangutan   marianne Premium account Joined: Sep 03 Points: 20248 Posts: 349 Posted: 2004-10-04 17:35:00    I was thinking about more participation of members and how it possibly could be rewarded. As I still think that people need some kind of acknowledgement for their efforts. In my opinion the pictures and photo album section distinguish GLOBO from other travel sites. I have three suggestions: 1. Picture of the Month Vote The present way of uploading pictures stays in place because it works. But I would like to see more competition among GLOBOS: Each GLOBO is allowed to upload 4 (or more or less)of his BEST pictures per month They are uploaded in a special section: e.g. ‘Picture of the Month Section’ All GLOBOS can vote The best picture is awarded: Picture of the month prize e.g. upgrade of membership For paying members this month can be added to their account so that they will have to renew one month later than their membership expires. When implementing this the first time it means that there is one month of submitting pictures and the voting can only start in the second month. Each month can have a different theme: Architecture Sunset, sunrise Nature Transport etc But all should be seen in connection with travel. 2. Giving and taking feedback on pictures. Each GLOBO can submit travel pictures on which he likes to have feedback. Constructive feedback is given by members about composition, colour and possibly on camera usage. To say: I like this picture is of course not enough. If needed I can give examples of this. 3. Photo albums which are photo journals rather than a set of individual pictures about the same subject. I tried to create one today, but did not succeed because when I put them together in an album to form a journal I realised that the text which I had carefully written for each photo was not shown in the album. Only the title of the photo is shown. I also found that I was allowed 150 characters and often needed a bit more to make the story flow. To make life easier for Andy GLOBOS can nominate photo albums for the reward of the month. But only albums created in the most recent month. Another thing that would make the quality of GLOBO better is good descriptions for the pictures. It is not good enough to say: Germany or Flower. It should be more precise. And if the photographer cannot be more precise maybe it is not his own picture. Marianne --- “I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel’s sake. The great affair is to move.” Robert Louis Stevenson Reply    Reply with quote    Contact marianne   mortimer Premium account Joined: Jun 04 Points: 15075 Posts: 528 Posted: 2004-10-04 21:29:00    Marianne (everybody) Thank you for joining in this discussion :-) And giving such a profound reply. We have been talking some of your ideas in several forums right now: On point one you have my full suport check out this discussion for reference: http://www.globosapiens.net/topic-photo-theme-contest-suggestion_29_1061_0000.html Picture rating, well just about the same as here: http://www.globosapiens.net/topic-suggestion-for-upholding-higher-standards-in-photography_29_1099_0000.html And about the suggested new photo album: what a good idea, but we should be able to only upload to this specific album as rangutan said in a post that I can't find right now. Any other members thinking this being a good idea and foremost what do you think about it Andy? Martin --- Today is the first day of the rest of your life, enjoy it! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact mortimer   andreas Joined: May 02 Points: 8313 Posts: 809 Posted: 2004-10-04 22:34:00    Hello everybody, thank you so much for your amount of thought and inspiration which comes from your postings. I am sure that there are usefull points in there which will be in any way find a way into future globo versions. However, I must pull the break a bit, just not to disapoint you guys. That all sounds verry good, but I think there is one major problem with GLOBO. It is to complicated which is caused by too man features. Problem with this is, that it takes far more development time, than the benefit of this is. I would love to bring a few points in there, especially comments from other members to pictures on the same site (I think moretimer suggested it?) Another good one is a page where example pictures are shown and so on. This ideas will be not be lost, but save here for implementing them once there is extra time. At the moment I am more searching for ways to bring benefit to users as well as generate extra revenue. As soon as there is enough extra revenue, there can be other programmers working on implementing all those ideas. The forum title however fits all your postings :-) At the moment there is the idea of certifying the travel tips. Lots of members have requested listing them in a global section. So this will come with certified listings. Certified lisings have the advantage that they can be trusted for accurate and up to date data, plus they will bring in extra revenue. Maybe this is also a way to encourage members, since only certified listings will find the way to the global section. The only way to get listed for a company there, is to be suggested by members. So GLOBO members will also become a kind of "status". Since their visit enables the company to be listed on GLOBO - an exclusive possiblity. This forum here is great and containes a couple of great thoughts, but as I said I fear that some of you will get disapointed because not every idea which take you time to come up with can be placed into GLOBO. Thank you all for beeing such a great part of GLOBO, your time, your thoughts and your warm compliments. Andy Reply    Reply with quote    Contact andreas   picasso Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 10057 Posts: 79 Posted: 2004-10-05 20:00:00    Good morning /evening to everyone. I do agree on certain issues with you Martin, but disagree on keeping non-performing Members for more than a year. Further more to the point, all memberships everywhere around last for 1 year, even Globo Premium accounts good for one year, unless if you perform well, so it could be extended. And what is performance, and contribution? Sounds kind of abstract to me. Reaing and rating only reports, sending out post cards, we also call contribution/performance? A person with average English reading capabilities could spend 2-3 leisurely min. per report reading and rating someone’s hard work. And how many points he could get in a week or a month, a year, just doing this? What is this free travel-reading library, or a free postcard supper store? for some “free bread eaters”. Well, we all have good ideas on how/why to dump of such accounts. Getting rid of some accounts, does not mean, that new arrivals will perform. Myself, I do strongly support, that “free bread eaters” have to go, but I’m asking myself and everybody else a question: did we all sighned, or check mark some terms, stating that we really have to contribute when joining to the community? The answer is:”NO”. Legally this accounts cannot be terminated;-Andreas and all of us will suffer. So how to deal with this problem LEGALLY? In my opinion only to make this as a trial site for say 2 month then payment membership option has to be offered (many sites on the net already practicing this). Ravi, I do support Martin on the issue of how many times we log in/of. We do not need this KGB/FBI stuff here, he is right many of us including me could log in many times per day, for some updates. Thanks Rudi on the trivia issue;-it will be Great stuff on Globo and I do agree that trivia will draw more members. Well guys, thanks for reading and your feedbacks. Sorry for some misspells;-English is my second language. Good luck to everyone. Boris San Francisco,CA --- BORIS Reply    Reply with quote    Contact picasso   mortimer Premium account Joined: Jun 04 Points: 15075 Posts: 528 Posted: 2004-10-06 13:36:00    Hi Boris You sound like you would love to get paid for your contribution to the community... I think you did join GLOBO and upload pictures and reports here out of free will, you always knew that other people can use your experiences, reports and pictures as inspiration for free, so why be so rude to them and throw them out. I know I'm exagerating a bit right now. I understand that if you see People's profiles with data like: Member since 1.5.2003 Last login: 1.5.2003 that they are not considering GLOBOsapiens worthwile. On the other hand they do not use up a lot of space on the system because they didn't upload a thing. There is just a small data file for them perhaps something like a couple of your pictures. But they add to the general number of members and that whats important when Andy is talking to investors.... and thats why we are talking about it here, and not in the open forum ;-) And why should a person not be able to be a member just to send postcards... It means they like this function and the quality of pictures here. They probably send the postcard to somebody who doesn't know GLOBOsapiens and that could produce a new member... he might even post. Well Andy could put some add under the postcards that would say something like: Do you like this picture of "that particular place"? There are a whole bunch more on GLOBOsapiens please follow this link to have a look. Would you like to send your own picture as a postcard, join GLOBOsapiens upload it and there you go... There are some members here on Globosapiens just using the Travel log function at the moment(which more should do, because it's great and will make members post eventually) and their friends just being members to read their travel log and give feedback in the guest book! These members are here and might get influenced by those members posting and post their stuff finally too. Attributing Points... You are getting more Points when you upload Pictures, Reports, Pictures in Reports.... than other People who only rate reports so there is fairness there. In another post I suggested that you only are allowed to rate after having uploaded (quality) to the community so Im a little bit on your side there. Well I like the Idea of being able to join for free and take part on this great site just for the fun of it, thank you Andy! Martin [ This Message was edited by: mortimer on 2004-10-06 14:08 ] --- Today is the first day of the rest of your life, enjoy it! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact mortimer   andreas Joined: May 02 Points: 8313 Posts: 809 Posted: 2004-10-06 16:14:00    Hello everyone, I am not sure, but I think mortimer did understand picasso wrong. Was he suggesting to pay for contribution? This is certanly not going to happen on GLOBO. There are some points mortimer mentioned that are absolutly right. For example we need more members to get into newspapers and to atract other new members and investors. The other other thing is, they do not have to contribute, in fact in some cases I am even happy that they do not since not everybody has the abbility to post in such high standards which I would like to see this community go to. If they send postcards, fine, excellent. This is the idea. They generate extra visitors and your travel pages get visited extra to. The postcards are actually a perfect marketing instrument free of charge. What GLOBO really neads is some good exposure in for example news papers or travel magazines. Those kind of papers which are read by the audience we want to have on GLOBO. Adressing the right people is the task. If the right people hear about GLOBOsapiens, the percentage of active members will go up. There are so many really "bad" people on the net, and I mean really bad, that I am always wondering ... where do all those nice guys come from? Mortimer, picasso, marianne, britman just to name a few. Creating a community with nice people in it might be a similar task like opening a club in real live. Not everybody will dance, but if you get the right people in there, they will start the party. Keep the bad guys out, so they do not ruin the show. The party shakers will take the other ones with them and inspire them to join the danceflor. Thats like on GLOBO. You guys rock and you make the other ones dance! Keep it up! Andy Reply    Reply with quote    Contact andreas   Page: 1 2 3