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andreas Joined: May 02 Points: 8313 Posts: 809 Posted: 2004-11-13 12:27:00    Hello Martin, thank you for your error report. The alignment has been fixed, the edit function is still buggy and needs some more time. Regards, andy Reply    Reply with quote    Contact andreas   rangutan Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 34752 Posts: 1044 Posted: 2004-11-13 13:34:00    Fantastic new doors open at GLOBO! Thanks Andy. With the search possibility I like the way that after selecting a country that the other menues open up. One can really find great TIPS (what should be) from travelling members that have been there. Hotels are not important, lists mostly available on the web or on-site. More valuable at "tips" are the other services at a location, specially "secret places". I hope that more members post there. I disagree with some above that we should get into a complicated star or $ system. Whos giong to update the prices every year!!! We could expect legal problems if we get too informative. The current simple three options are enough. [ This Message was edited by: rangutan on 2004-11-13 13:44 ] --- Rudolf "Rangutan" Graspointner Reply    Reply with quote    Contact rangutan   mortimer Premium account Joined: Jun 04 Points: 15075 Posts: 528 Posted: 2004-11-13 17:45:00    Hi Rudi I just found that a paid price in addition to the general rating would be helpful. When a paid price is statet a date of visit should also be added, like that we can assume how much more it would perhaps be now. Anyway a date visited would be great to have always. As I explained sometimes a paid price would be helpful for others to decide whether it's in their budget or not. Also would a paid price be helpful for a general travel planning in terms of budget. I don't agree with you that hotel recomondations would not be helpful. I do often check out the places I visit before I go and try to find special places to explore. When travelling in Europe I often use the michelin guide. Also slow food has some great guides... So guides are needed. On the other hand you really have to know other travellers to find out if they like the same style of food or hotel as you do. When you go for a michelin rated hotel/restaurant you normally know what you get. This shows even more the importance that a website is stated, like that we can make up our mind on the web. Martin --- Today is the first day of the rest of your life, enjoy it! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact mortimer   andreas Joined: May 02 Points: 8313 Posts: 809 Posted: 2004-11-13 22:19:00    Hello Mortimer, I am just trying to find the error you described. Please have a look at the new topic I have opened inside the forum. Errortracking is a bit oftopic. andy Reply    Reply with quote    Contact andreas   binmke Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 1591 Posts: 9 Posted: 2004-11-15 18:42:00    Lots of great ideas being shared. Here are my two cents... Giving the listed establishment the possibility to add their own content to the review is a good idea, however I do not believe it should discourage people from posting honest reviews that may be perceived as "negative". A feature that may be helpful would be to have other travelers comment on a given travel tip. This gives you the confirmation of other people like yourself who agree with (or do not agree with) the information you posted. It is also a way for more recent visitors to communicate changes, like "the price was 10 EUR more when I visited last week" or, "this place is now closed" I think that this would be a more accurate measure of how good a place is. If it's truly good, the comments should speak for themselves. If the tip is not good, we should be able to see in the comments from others that have visited the same place. The new format looks great Andy! As usual- good work ! Brian Reply    Reply with quote    Contact binmke   rangutan Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 34752 Posts: 1044 Posted: 2004-11-16 17:12:00    Good point Brian. By having multiple or additional views for a tip, the entry becomes open to more info, views and reviews. That would make GLOBO a different tip/guide to other simple lists on the web. Even if there arnt any reviews, just by having that option, the initial tip has confirmed itself since no one adjusts/rejects it! Question: can a tip/guide target be submitted by more than one member? ....i find no examples yet? --- Rudolf "Rangutan" Graspointner Reply    Reply with quote    Contact rangutan   mortimer Premium account Joined: Jun 04 Points: 15075 Posts: 528 Posted: 2004-11-16 17:20:00    Hi Rudi About multiple tips: Look here: http://www.globosapiens.net/travel-tips_nepal_279321_11.html?ob=0 Cafe Nyatapola was added by Dave (undedd) and me. I too would like being able to give comments about travel tips of other members. It wouldn't, however, prevent multiple entries for the same place because people are lazy or just don't know how to find out if a tip already exists. Martin --- Today is the first day of the rest of your life, enjoy it! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact mortimer   britman Premium account Joined: Apr 04 Points: 17984 Posts: 83 Posted: 2004-11-23 08:47:00    Having read this forum I have several observations 1. I am in complete favour of GLOBO raising revenue by verification or endorsement of travel tips. 2. I like the idea of rewarding members with points, prizes or whatever if their tips are followed up and sponsored – it should certainly motivate members to participate. 3. Five thumbs up instead of three would give wider flexibility of assessment 4. I agree that it is just as important to warn members of the sad, seedy or rip off venues as it is to state the bargain, star find or a good establishment worth recommending. Obviously, a criticised venue is not going to verify or pay and of course it may lead to legal action - but a disclaimer by GLOBO that these are views of individual members only and not necessarily GLOBOsapiens Gmb would surely protect it and throw any liability back to the individual member. 5. Difficult to state prices as Marianne suggests – because of the various Rack Rate/ Internet Rate/Walk up Rate/ Seasonal Rates. I have found huge variations between the walk up price and say the internet price. Also the larger chains will never admit to their very lowest rates. The small private hotel will often offer the room at a bargain price if it is out of season or occupancy is low. Besides, I can never remember exactly how much I paid weeks or months later! I do bargain hard and use every ploy, to find the cheapest way of securing the lowest price for a particular accommodation. if I wish to stay in it. Similarly in a restaurant, what you pay depends upon what you eat? Most establishments to be rated by Globo’s members would almost certainly be already rated in various guide books – all establishments be they hotels/restaurants/places of interest market or advertise themselves to some extent! So Globosapiens would be an additional marketing expense to the proprietor. 6. A $$ rating system maybe more accurate – but Boris’ classification of stars - ***** is one we all understand – i.e. the universal official classification but Globo thumbs up could be our alternative but five thumbs up instead of three. 7. I think that the idea should be given a trial. Let us see how the “recommended venues” respond to sponsoring or paying for their publicity? Hope this helps! Cheers - Brit --- Cheers! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact britman   bear495 Joined: May 03 Points: 8634 Posts: 177 Posted: 2004-11-23 14:42:00    Hello All. I have enjoyed reading this forum topic over the past two weeks. Now that I understand what is being suggested, I believe that this is a wonderful opportunity for Globosapiens. I do not understand why so many of you suggest the possibility of legal problems when an establishment receives a poor rating. Isn't that a part of any endeavor, having others evaluate the product? I liked the observations that Brit has for us. Let's give a try to the suggested system and see how it works. Russ --- "Own only what you can carry with you; know language, know countries, know people. Let your memory be your travel bag." Alexander Solzhenitsyn Reply    Reply with quote    Contact bear495   britman Premium account Joined: Apr 04 Points: 17984 Posts: 83 Posted: 2004-11-23 16:35:00    Hi Russ, I mention legal problems because of the laws of libel. If for example I was to falsely or maliciously rubbish cafe X on Globosapiens then not only would I be liable personally but also Andreas through his holding Company would be liable each time the travel tip was published under Libel laws Of course common sense which almost all Globo's have - is usually used. The defence to libel is that the comment is the truth! Having said that there is the odd time that someone mauls an establishment wrongly. I agree that I would personally stand up and be counted if I had a bad deal. To illustrate my feelings of "putting my money where my mouth is" - -see my new report on Sri Lanka and the Mirissa Paradise Beach Hotel - but I stand by every word of it - it is true!! So publish and be damned! Cheers, Brit --- Cheers! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact britman   Page: 1 2 3