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marianne Premium account Joined: Sep 03 Points: 20248 Posts: 349 Posted: 2006-03-25 14:18:00    David and Kerrie are absolutely right, enjoyment is number one. If there are to be some guidelines, these will be very general. Most of the postings in this thread were about what photos are suitable. When Martin and I started this discussion, the 'what kind of photo to post' was numbers 4 and 5, which meant they were of less importance than points 1 - 3. Here are points 1- 3 1. Moderators to the photo galleries 2. Pop ups, with rating guidelines 3. Tag box whether the photographer wants a comment to his/her picture We would like to hear your opinion about these three points. Marianne --- “I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel’s sake. The great affair is to move.” Robert Louis Stevenson Reply    Reply with quote    Contact marianne   davidx Premium account Joined: Dec 04 Points: 34719 Posts: 440 Posted: 2006-03-25 14:28:00    OK - points 1 to 3. 1. In principle I quie like the idea but in practice I'm afraid it might create quite as many problems as it solved. 2. Moderately in favour. 3. Very strongly in favour. Thanks for inviting comment. David --- Grieve not for that which you cannot do but rejoice in that which you can. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact davidx   mortimer Premium account Joined: Jun 04 Points: 15075 Posts: 528 Posted: 2006-03-25 19:14:00    Hi There Of course are guidelines for appopriate pictures only important if there were moderators to the forums which would delete the unwanted stuff. I too agree with those, who think that making it too complicated might make it less fun in the long term. I hope that by time people would apply the guidelines already when taking pictures and intently take pictures for GLOBO. Like I did on my Berlin trip with the Slide show of BUS100. I would never personally have taken the shots for my private album but found it a interesting thing to do, for you guys. The reactions I got were all positive! http://www.globosapiens.net/mortimer/slide-show-berlin-sightseeing-trip-the-cheep-way-bus-100-1164.html Most of those pictures are not up to my usual quality approach but, there are better and worse but alltogether they make an interestig selection and a viewable slide show. If we had guidelines on what pictures are wished for and moderators to keep and open eye and apply the guidelines with common sense, we will probably end up with more people taking the shots we like to see. The members would also benefit personally. I think that the audience at home (friends and family) are more interested to see the sights and not the travellers. We are talking about rough guidelines and not about strict rules. Martin [ This Message was edited by: mortimer on 2006-03-25 19:42 ] --- Today is the first day of the rest of your life, enjoy it! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact mortimer   davidx Premium account Joined: Dec 04 Points: 34719 Posts: 440 Posted: 2006-03-25 20:28:00    You can persuade me about this Martin if you can answer this - and I'm not trying to be tricky -it's a genuine question. Do you mean to have moderators, any one of whom can delete a photo -as with other sites - and if so, don't you think it would cause resentment? If not, is there a mechanism by which the moderators could have private discussions? The problem with the contact button is that it rejects copying and pasting as spam and you get a zap from the red ink. That seems to make more than 2 moderators difficult. I suppose I shouldn't object to the idea of two who had to be in agreement for anything to be deleted - but I'm afraid it could cause the same sort of resentment as a single moderator. I like the idea, I should like to agree but I'm a bit stuck on the practicalities. Cheers, David --- Grieve not for that which you cannot do but rejoice in that which you can. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact davidx   mortimer Premium account Joined: Jun 04 Points: 15075 Posts: 528 Posted: 2006-03-25 22:09:00    Hi David I think technically it would be easier if any one of the moderators could delete the picture, yes. And for all those really silly or bad pics that we all agree are not suitable for GLOBOsapiens, they can go ahead an delete. Therefore I really stress that those moderators must have a great deal of common sense and good judgement. If ever they feel that they need to discuss a certain picture they could easily do this in the interns forum (or a new forum for moderators?), or through contact. And I really think they only need to delete about 1 to 3 pics per month... hopefully less with the time. I'm pretty sure that moderators would keep an eye open on what the member is posting in general. If he/she would just post rather personal pics they could contact the member. I suppose if a member would be contacted by a moderator this would impress him more than by another member. I would like to see that moderators would not just delete but preferably guide members to contribute more great stuff and less other... Have a great day Martin --- Today is the first day of the rest of your life, enjoy it! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact mortimer   terje Premium account Joined: Feb 06 Points: 8228 Posts: 8 Posted: 2006-03-26 08:49:00    Good morning everybody! Snowing in California.... wow... Here in Norway we are happy that 1 meter on snow finally starts to melt.... Well, to the disussion. I have been a member on other travelsites, but when I discovered the interactivity of globo, I was sold. The whole idea of commenting photos and give scores is the main reason I am still here... :-) I agree with the posting that said that this system will regulate itself. Good photos will appear on top of the lists, not so good photos will be more hidden. Automatic delete of 2* photos or below after 2 months, could be an idea, but anyone that post a photo must be aware of such a rule. With so many photos in the database, why not develop a random slideshow function, where you can enjoy random travel photos from all over the world? Marianne, comments on your first 3 points: 1. Moderators are welcome for my part. I am surprised if there are no moderators today, looking through the posted photos. 2. Popups with information... I generally hate popous and have blocked popups in my browser. Information is a good thing, but I prefer it integrated. 3. Box to tick if you want comments. Maybe its better to tick this box if you DONT want comments. I guess most of us are interested in this. Then to the final question.... what kind of photos. I discovered when I posted a photos of my son in Orihuela, with a splendid view in the background, the scores were low. The first few seconds, I was very offended, because it seemed like you did not like the sight of him. :-) After a few thoughts, I now understand that a travel experience can be of such personal character that the photo with my memory does not tell anything to a 3-rd person. This apply to most arranged photos with persons, and even some animals. When posting photos, I will now make sure that my photos tells their own story. This means that the motives can be of a wide range, depending on what experiences I seek and what the photographer thinks reflects the destination. By for now Terje --- TerryB Reply    Reply with quote    Contact terje   marianne Premium account Joined: Sep 03 Points: 20248 Posts: 349 Posted: 2006-03-26 10:37:00    Terje, Thanks for your feedback. In the early days Andy used to monitor all photos and send a warning if he thought them impropriate, but these days there are so many pictures posted and i suppose that he is no longer possible to monitor them. As you say 1* or impropriate photos will disappear, but they take up place in the database. Besides, if GLOBIES of so called improper photos don't know that their photos are not quite travel related or are the ones we rather not see on GLOBO, we should let him/her know this. Otherwise (s)he may go on posting the same kind of photos. Today I found another reason why it is important to have moderators. Read my comment for this photo. http://www.globosapiens.net/aolt1234/pictures-dani-32269.html As you suggest pop-ups with information is not the best idea, integrated is far better. This is a very valuable sentence: [QUOTE] I will now make sure that my photos tell their own story.[END QUOTE] I think this what the photo content is all about. Marianne --- “I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel’s sake. The great affair is to move.” Robert Louis Stevenson Reply    Reply with quote    Contact marianne   davidx Premium account Joined: Dec 04 Points: 34719 Posts: 440 Posted: 2006-03-26 11:31:00    Martin's comments go some way to reassure me and I'm prepared to trust Andy's judgement in selecting moderators for photos. I do like the idea of a mods forum, though, and not only for this. I think it might help establish some ROUGH guidelines on what belongs in which forum and generally tidy up the message boards. Cheers David --- Grieve not for that which you cannot do but rejoice in that which you can. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact davidx   isaacmolina Joined: Aug 05 Points: 1717 Posts: 53 Posted: 2006-03-26 15:29:00    At the beginning, when I joined Globo I was not aware of the tremendous high quality of this site. Moderators like Martin, Marianne and some others (even if they sometimes may appear little unpleasant and irritating) are VERY MUCH NEEDED to keep this site with first class stuff. They are somehow our rudders, like our white globules that keep our Globo club clean from improper elements. I do not think that we have to sacrifice quantity to quality and delete low quality pictures. Only should be deleted those disagreeable and intentionally with bad taste pictures, because the low quality ones will go, automatically, to the ostracism. That is the law of Globo. It is like in business: goods of bad quality and expensive are not sold and automatically disappear from the market in a natural way. When a new member looks for pictures of a determinate place in Globo, they always appear by a scale of points, the best of the best, from 5 to 1, so the low quality pictures are on the bottom and few care to have a look at them among 26.000 pictures. I think that if we are too inquisitive the new members will quit Globo. Tolerance is needed. Maybe those new members who now only post low quality pictures will improve their skill to make them better. Globo is like a school. I am learning from Globo and the members with more experience and as from today will only log what I consider that is my best. If a new member is showing a personal pic, well, maybe an advice is needed, but without recrimination, just like joking. If the picture shows a relative, but in a nice and suitable environment, then I think that should be left without commenting negatively, like the famous picture of the daughter of Marcos Fonseca of Brazil. Just my 2 pesos --- isaac molina Reply    Reply with quote    Contact isaacmolina   marianne Premium account Joined: Sep 03 Points: 20248 Posts: 349 Posted: 2006-03-26 16:11:00    Isaac, Thanks for your feed back. You are right the last thing we want is that new Globies leave. We will do everything to prevent this. What is your opinion about: 1. Moderators to the photo galleries 2. Pop ups, with rating guidelines 3. Tag box whether the photographer wants a comment to his/her picture Marianne --- “I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel’s sake. The great affair is to move.” Robert Louis Stevenson Reply    Reply with quote    Contact marianne   Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7