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horourke Premium account Joined: Sep 04 Points: 11274 Posts: 142 Posted: 2004-11-04 14:11:00    [quote] On 2004-11-01 22:52:00, spaceout wrote: Bonjour, Picture rating is a sticky subject as many people don't have 1-good cameras (like me a few years ago) 2-don't really know about photography (and therefore their pics are point-and-shot) 3-people rate by what they like, not the composition, subject matter or what not. Yes, I agree that Globo should only reflect the best, but it is also a guide for traveling. In some situations, one can have a picture that is not that great, but the subject matter can be quite interesting. Therefore it should be rated high too, don't you think? VK [/quote] Bonjour, It is very good of you to take time from your very busy life to share in this discussion. I think the better option for the pictures that are technically not so good is to use them in travel reports. Another community member has suggested this already. Within a report one can explain the real impact of the scene in words as well as images. The challenge of obtaining high ratings is a big incentive to improve and many others often receive relatively low scores - this makes me feel not too bad . it helps me to strive for better in future. One aspect that creates disadvantages for us in Northern islands is I notice the sunlight is much better in Spain and Italy! --- Hugh Reply    Reply with quote    Contact horourke   bear495 Joined: May 03 Points: 8634 Posts: 177 Posted: 2004-11-04 15:33:00    Thank you for your comments, Hugh. It is always pleasant to hear from another of our members. Martin, Since we are discussing rating systems for pictures, allow me to share my ideas: ***** Excellent quality. High interest. Clear contrasts. **** High quality. Clear. Interesting. *** Nice subject, but no outstanding attributes to show a difference. ** Average, somewhat boring. * Poor quality, poor subject matter, uninteresting. Then, similar to what Rudi mentioned, I add a star if the photo is unique or of a place or sight that we have few other pictures. I will usually delete one star when the member's picture is included in the photo. I believe that we all add or delete stars based on personal tastes in subjectivity. NEVER should any of us add or delete stars because of who took the picture. Rudi is correct about a couple of his ideas... we should encourage all members to rate as many pictures as possible. Only in that manner can a true 'average rating' be achieved. Also, ratings should not be construed as a personal attacK. It should be taken in the spirit of education. We are learning from our peers how to choose photographic subject matter and quality. We are each individual, yet it is wise to see the way that others agree with our decisions. Only in this way can we improve. If I receive a lower rating on a photo, then the next picture I take I will remember how that impacted others. Russ --- "Own only what you can carry with you; know language, know countries, know people. Let your memory be your travel bag." Alexander Solzhenitsyn Reply    Reply with quote    Contact bear495   spaceout Premium account Joined: Jun 02 Points: 20307 Posts: 56 Posted: 2004-11-05 05:46:00    The rating of a picture can be a guide for future picture taking or interest. Yet, I encountered some pictures that were rated 5 stars, and I couldn't even discern what the picture was about? It was too blurry or the picture was too white. There was certainly something wrong with them. I wonder how some pictures get declined or accepted. Everyone has had some pictures declined, I certainly did. Yet some like Bootlegga's pics he had of Beijing were declined. I'm curious as to know how this got to be. The rating of my pictures aid me toward taking better pictures and some of the pictures I have online actually won some photo contest. The rating helps me chose which one to submit. The rating I have on my pictures is not for me to have the pics online, but more of a personal guide. VK --- Festina Lente (Hurry Slowly) Reply    Reply with quote    Contact spaceout   mortimer Premium account Joined: Jun 04 Points: 15075 Posts: 528 Posted: 2004-11-05 11:15:00    Hi GLOBO's Thank you all for participating in this discussion, that's great!!!! LOL Quote spaceoout: > Yet, I encountered some pictures that were rated 5 stars, and I couldn't even > discern what the picture was about? It was too blurry or the picture was too > white. There was certainly something wrong with them. I think thats why picture rating is so important. Some people like a certain pic others don't like it. When a pic has got something lilke 20 votes on we get a real average rating. But that means that more people should go to the lenght and vote! It also is important that bad pictures get voted on to, beacuse only when we attribute only one star for a really bad picture will the average voting go down. Martin --- Today is the first day of the rest of your life, enjoy it! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact mortimer   ravinderkumarsi Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 14003 Posts: 451 Posted: 2004-11-05 14:04:00    hii martin i fully agrees with you that rating of a pic depends upon person to person ,some may like some color ,also unless we get a large numbers of votes we cant judge the quality one more imp thing i want to add that the previous rating stars do influence the rating.. that is when we see a 4 star rated pic we automatically give 4 star to it so initial rating make a lot of difference ravi --- at bangalore /back 2 globo after a long Reply    Reply with quote    Contact ravinderkumarsi   inzaghi Joined: Jun 02 Points: 3862 Posts: 87 Posted: 2004-11-05 14:17:00    I am very happy with mistybleu's suggestion as it speaks to everybody. Rating pictures and reports is very subjective not only due to differing tastes but it also depends on the rater's own photographic skill. In fact, it also depends on what each rater is habitually appreciative of: artistic shots, face shots, panoramic shots, sceneries, macro, etc. It would be hard to agree on a clearly defined and worded description of the significance of each rating. Perhaps a simplified system would in the end prove to be helpful: there are five ratings available, so it is clear that 3 stars refer to AVERAGE. A little better than that gets 4 stars, and a little worse than that gets 2 stars. The very best get all 5 stars and the really bad shots receive 1 star. The final rating is meant to reflect the averaged collective view of the Globo community. IMHO, the trick is not to set in stone the rating system, but for everybody to go out there and rate as many images as possible. This will ensure that the law of large numbers come into play in deriving an accurate average rating. My C$0.02 --- Lover of just five things - travelling, photography, thick crust pizzas, the xy-chromosomes, the Italians and the Dutch. Well, I can't count, so? Reply    Reply with quote    Contact inzaghi   inzaghi Joined: Jun 02 Points: 3862 Posts: 87 Posted: 2004-11-05 14:36:00    I wanted to draw a few examples from my own portfolio: these are all pictures that mean much to myself, but which may in turn be appreciated only by a few other discerning eyes. I am prone to taking pictures that are representivate and that truly capture the spirit of the place, like colorful corners, city icons, local faces, etc whereas most people love only images that look like those found in coffee-table travel guide books. I have chosen those with bad, 1 star ratings to illustrate that [b]a technically perfect shot may not receive the best rating[/b] if the viewer does not appreciate the significance of the picture, which is why mistybleu's suggestion works best. http://www.globosapiens.net/inzaghi/picture-anticipation-825.html One of my personal favorites as it captures completely the mood of everybody perched atop Mount Sinai, in the frozen cold and with abated breath, while awaiting the sun to rise on God's sacred mountain. Yet, unless you've been there, it may be hard to appreciate it. http://www.globosapiens.net/inzaghi/picture-graffitti-7775.html Definitely captures the heart of Amsterdam: artistic graffiti and a rusty old bike http://www.globosapiens.net/inzaghi/picture-night-hawkers-812.html And this, within one picture, captures the essence of nightlife in Siwa Oasis in Egypt http://www.globosapiens.net/inzaghi/picture-gondola-7812.html Well, ever seen Venice from this angle? http://www.globosapiens.net/inzaghi/picture-smiles-1095.html This image can never be captured again; these boys were tailing me as I walked along the Red Sea so I took a picture of them and showed it. They went wild seeing their own faces on the screen so came up with these antics. http://www.globosapiens.net/inzaghi/picture-greenwich-7813.html Need I say more? The line which represents GMT +0000. A technically difficult picture to take without a tripod and behind a netting gate. http://www.globosapiens.net/inzaghi/picture-colosseum-7789.html Again, an alternative look at the Roman Colosseum. [ This Message was edited by: mortimer on 2004-11-05 17:12 ] --- Lover of just five things - travelling, photography, thick crust pizzas, the xy-chromosomes, the Italians and the Dutch. Well, I can't count, so? Reply    Reply with quote    Contact inzaghi   mortimer Premium account Joined: Jun 04 Points: 15075 Posts: 528 Posted: 2004-11-05 17:32:00    Hi Inzaghi/GLOBOs Thank you all for joining in the discussion! Inzaghis examples show again that the more votes the better. All these pics had less than 3 votes. Everybody should go after the new pics and vote on them, like that a good picture doesn't get lost because just one person didn't like it. Im sure not a lot of us go searching on members pages for pictures with one star! Martin --- Today is the first day of the rest of your life, enjoy it! Reply    Reply with quote    Contact mortimer   marianne Premium account Joined: Sep 03 Points: 20248 Posts: 349 Posted: 2004-11-06 19:21:00    I wish we could read comments underneath the pictures like we can do for reports. That way we can explain why we gave a certain number of stars. And we can read each other's reasons why we allotted a certain number of stars. The number of stars given to pictures will be different for each of us, even if we agree that e.g. * = uninteresting, not travel related ** = out of focus, uninteresting picture *** = in focus, general composition, nothing special **** = good composition but still a few flaws ***** = the perfect picture This is the way I rate pictures, I give many three stars. Marianne --- “I travel not to go anywhere, but to go. I travel for travel’s sake. The great affair is to move.” Robert Louis Stevenson Reply    Reply with quote    Contact marianne   rangutan Premium account Joined: Aug 04 Points: 34752 Posts: 1044 Posted: 2004-11-06 20:03:00    I agree with Ravi and others that most members ratings are influenced by/according to the current average. When I open a picture I force myself to look at the picture first, not the average rating. THIS IS VERY HARD AT FIRST BUT TRY DO IT! I then give a rating according to OUR star system on quality and originality and see how my rating compares. From this I give my honest opinion AND see/learn how to rate better quality. --- Rudolf "Rangutan" Graspointner Reply    Reply with quote    Contact rangutan   Page: 1 2 3 4