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yuliangpang Premium account Joined: Oct 08 Points: 4259 Posts: 4 Posted: 2008-11-17 20:36:00    Jorge: I did not look at your list of top 10 before I gave my observations. I did not have difficulty with Xuan Zang in your list, and just would like to give you more information about Zheng He, the Chinese Christopher Colombus. You may find something from Wikipedia, just putting Zheng He and clicking the search function. He had led seven voyages to southeast asia, Middle east and Africa. He deserves a place in your list. --- Traveling makes life enriched, i am trying to be Chinese Marco Paolo, introducing more what i see in Europe to you from new perspectives. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact yuliangpang   jorgesanchez Premium account Joined: May 05 Points: 41625 Posts: 77 Posted: 2008-11-17 21:43:00    Hi Yuliang, thanks for your suggestions. Well, you should ask Globo member Dani Serralta, who opened this subject, not me. I just gave my opinion and proposed ten top travellers according to my criteria. I think that a real traveller is the one looking for knowledge, and also enjoyment. Travelling for meeting new people, wise men, and new cultures and learning out of them, these are noble purposes, that are travelling. Dalai Lama, Pope of Rome, Presidents, Businessmen, Journalists travelling for work, rich tourist who board expensive cruises without stop when they are retired, they are not travellers, they might be called aficionados, travel lovers, but not real travellers. During one of my many trips to China, I bought the following book that I have already read several times as consultation: “Travelers from Ancient Cathay, an account of China’s Great Explorers”, published in Hong Kong in 1992. The chapters are devoted to: - Zhang Qian: Pioneer of the Silk Road - Sima Qian: Historian and Geographer - Fa Xian: Tireless monk-explorer - Xuan Zang: Explorer of India - Zhen Ho: Voyager to the Western Oceans So, I know about the Chinese great travellers. Notice that in my list, the first one is my loved hero, Chinese Hiueng Tsang. The eunuch Zhen Ho is very popular in Spain because of a recent book about him, translated in Spanish, where they speculate that he might have been in America before Columbus. But he travelled for his country, he was working we can say, he was not a backpacker or a freelance traveller without sponsors. That is why I did not add him in my list. Tsieng Hang (Xuan Zang) had a goal: searching for the sutras in the sources of the Buddhism in India, he himself was a monk. I have a collection of books for children (in Russian language) of the Monkey King inspired in Hiueng Tsang, based in “Journey to the West”, written by him. For me Xuan Zang is numero uno in the top ten travellers of the world in all times. Yuliang, just give your ten proposals to help Dani Serralta to orchestrate his list. He has the last word. Since this subject is becoming popular with a lot of participants, let me create again a new top ten travellers based in those premises (and without repeating nationalities): 1 – Hiueng Tsang (Xuan Zang), Chinese 2 – Juan Pobre de Zamora (first backpacker to have made an around the world journey, in the XVII century), Spanish 3 – Richard Burton (yes, much better than Stanley, Livingstone, etc.), English 4 – Ludovicus Varthema (the first European to penetrate in Mecca), Italian 5 – André Brugiroux (50 years on the road withour sponsors), French 6 – Heinz Stucke (50 years discovering the world with his bicycle), German 7 - Fernão Mendes Pinto (17 years living fantastic adventures), Portuguese 8 – Ibn Batuta, Morocco 9 – Afanasi Nikitin, first European (apart from Alexander of Macedonia) to travel to India, many years before Vasco da Gama. Russian 10 – ??? still thinking. Will r --- Bonum est faciendum et prosequendum, et malum vitandum. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact jorgesanchez   jorgesanchez Premium account Joined: May 05 Points: 41625 Posts: 77 Posted: 2008-11-17 21:43:00    too long message. I still wanted to add: Just my two two Pan Liang coins, used during the Han Dinasty. --- Bonum est faciendum et prosequendum, et malum vitandum. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact jorgesanchez   yuliangpang Premium account Joined: Oct 08 Points: 4259 Posts: 4 Posted: 2008-11-18 05:09:00    Hi, Jorge: thank for the clarification and detailed information, now I know how your choose the people, backpacker, not for working. I have nothing to say for the list, just would like to call your attention to another less well-known Chinese great traveller, Xu Xiake, Wikipedia has very little thing about him. It is pity he is only well-known in China, but he was a great backpacker traveller around China. If you have time, read something about him. --- Traveling makes life enriched, i am trying to be Chinese Marco Paolo, introducing more what i see in Europe to you from new perspectives. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact yuliangpang   jorgesanchez Premium account Joined: May 05 Points: 41625 Posts: 77 Posted: 2008-11-18 09:25:00    Yes, I searched in Wikipedia, he also was a good traveler. Another two I love very much, they were poets, but also traveled a lot: - Li Bai (he liked to drink s alot!) - Du Fu They lived at the same time and were friends. But still, numero uno is Hieung Tsang. Good that you are Chinese, from the Country of the Centre (Chung Kuo), and give another point of view. Sometimes the western countries people (Europe and America) think that the rest of the countries have not had travelers in the past, that they have discovered nothing. --- Bonum est faciendum et prosequendum, et malum vitandum. Reply    Reply with quote    Contact jorgesanchez   plancarpin Premium account Joined: Aug 08 Points: 3228 Posts: 28 Posted: 2008-11-18 15:39:00    Hi friends, this will be an endless post trying to rank them... open issue if finally much better! Daniel do now have a lot to compile and please no political statements here!! we are here to share only about travel and photos. I was guessing if the most valuable traveller of the whole list wasn't Lucy's later sisters and brothers who left eastern and central Africa (Ethiopia, Kenya, Chad) to reach the Middle East and split into East and West ..this was , at least between 1.9 and 2.2 billion years ago... no names, no nationalities, no political nor religious belief... --- One travels, not to change locations, but ideas. Hippolyte Taine (french philosopher) Reply    Reply with quote    Contact plancarpin   Page: 1 2 3 4