jorgesanchez
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Posted: 2006-10-16 10:33:00
Last times I have remarked that there are too many daily comments to the pictures, more than 50. That may be good if the comments are didactic, given by specialists in photography, the type to help you to improve your skill and that everybody appreciates. But unfortunately I mostly read all the time 20 or 30 comments on a row by people without knowledge in photography techniques such as: very nice, I feel hungry, is that man in the pic going to fish?... etc., and that do not bring anything useful to the picture or to the readers or to the potential new Globo members; there are vain comments. The worst is that maybe the previous comments where better but are not shown anymore because of the capacity of the system to show only the last 50 comments.
Perhaps the staff should limit the amount of comments per person per day? Let’s say 10 per person and per day (or maybe 5?).
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mortimer
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Posted: 2006-10-16 12:52:00
hi Jorge
True! You are not the only one to notice. Rudi made a similar statement in this thread:
http://www.globosapiens.net/topic-wanted-picture-content-and-ratings_47_2321_0000.html
I think this would be better if comments on pictures would not get points.
Some people are just commenting without even rating just to get the points.
You are asking for 10 comments per person per day Rudi wanted a rating restriction for 5* or 1* pics.
A long time ago, when we were talking the rating scheme I suggested that people would only be allowed to rate if they are active members and have contributed some pictures, or maybee have contributed pictures that got a above 4* rating with more than 5 votes...
Or only premium members can rate when they open the pictures in biggest size.
These ideas all need quite a bit of programming. It takes a lot of time and it depends on staff.
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Posted: 2006-10-16 20:31:00
My two cents (paise rather)
Points and ranks, provide a kick to most people. Thanking people for rating and commenting is actually a good practice to me. That keeps it going. Ranking contributors with is very essential too!
When it comes to ranking, another method could be based on weights. That is, not basing the rank on the sum of points but based on Reports*x + comments*y+ rating*z. That means ranks are influenced by contribution and points are by encouragement.
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eirekay
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Posted: 2006-10-16 22:07:00
I am with Jorge - 10 comments per day ought to be more than enough. Commenting on every photo needs to be discouraged - it makes it difficult to see what is really of interest. I also think that Clive had a good idea - rather than flooding the site with 20 photos, I am trying to stick to just four or five pictures at a time and building Albums over a period of time. It is hard on some days to sit and rate because there are just so many.
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Posted: 2006-10-17 11:56:00
Eire,
That is a very good idea. Ten comments per day and an upload of five pictures per day.This also means that we have to come back day after day if we want to upload or comment on pictures. This is good for the site.
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rangutan
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Posted: 2006-10-17 14:42:00
Going in the wrong direction? Why penalise the whole community for a few over enthusiastic sheep? Surely we don't want limits other than the "Terms and Conditions" at GLOBO, we want guidlines and norms. Time and timing is precious to all of us. Some members can only log-on once a week or month and need the flexibility that GLOBO allows. Yes the 50-items limit in the 24-hour review needs a solution (alternative) and some members should still learn how irritating "flooding" can be and how precious time is to others who might NOT want to read the same bland cliches everyday. I like the comment function, let us all just use it responsibly!
Bad quality, spam, human errors and breaches from the norm should be solved by STAFF, assisted by moderators and pioneers, if they want this website to grow in its original direction and purpose. Flooding can be neutralised by the system automatically but why not rather confront the culprits (privately via "contact" function") directly rather than set quotas and limits for the entire community?
Guidelines are OK but quotas and limits would slow down the growth of this website.
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jorgesanchez
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Posted: 2006-10-18 00:47:00
I still think that limiting the daily comments to, let’s say, ten, is becoming an urgent measure to undertake by Globo staff in view of the many useless daily comments by some new members that obstinately write just to write, every picture, with the first thought that passes through their mind.
In respect of uploading pictures, since we only have 10 per month, this is not so serious. Only four members receive the premium monthly and can upload 100 pictures, 3.3 per day, but it is up to their fair criteria to upload them whenever they can.
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mortimer
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Posted: 2006-10-18 01:52:00
Sorry Jorge I don't really understand your last message.
There are about 30 Premium members who all could upload 100 pics per month, including you. So why talk about 4?
If we limit the comments at 10 per day this is one thing, the rating should however still be possible. Sometimes interesting discussions about the picture are done via the comments and the poster can learn something, if the commenting would be limited this would reduce those discussions too.
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Posted: 2006-10-18 02:16:00
Martin:
I only counted the four monthly premiums (I did not know that they are so many members with premiums). But these 30 members are responsible and do not post useless comments.
For useless comments I do not mean funny observations, or just thoughts derived from the impression received by a given picture. On the contrary; these non technical comments are very positive and make the pictures alive,
What I want to convey is the harm of automatic comments, writing in every picture the same, such as: thanks for sharing (today you can read such comments in about ten different pictures from a new member).
Maybe these nuisance comments are soon gone, maybe no, and in that case staff should consider to take measures, otherwise potential new members would not be attracted to join Globo when judging he quality of the site by those futile comments.
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Posted: 2006-10-18 03:35:00
On some levels I agree with Rudi, but I am not quite sure how to approach some of the abusers. Yes, a message in their mailbox, but how to word it without creating ill will? "Sorry, but you are cluttering the Picture Comments with useless and unwanted banality" or "Please don't post comments unless they can be meaningful"? I made a comment in the guest book of one of these people in September and immediately received a 4**** on a report I posted a year ago that had almost all fives. Not to complain, but she gave the same score of 4**** to the Granada Hotel Report that was posted last week.
One concern not yet voiced is how the senseless comments look to someone who comes across this site for the first time. I'm not sure that a serious traveler is going to be impressed or even interested if "Thank you for sharing" repeated ten times is one of the first things he/she sees when glancing on the page.
Yes, it is only a couple of abusers, but I still think the suggested limits are reasonable. 10 and 10 (comments and pictures) should be enough for anyone in a single day. I would hope it doesn't stop people from rating - they still get points for those who value them. the rest of us will continue to rate because we appreciate being rated - it's a good kharma thing.
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